Penn revealed how he first came in contact with Sean Hannidi and how he landed on his show. “I made your first phone call,” Haniti said. “Remember what you told me the first time?” Penn replied, “I said, ‘I do not trust you.’ But we have to move on. “We all talk about how divisive things are, how divided things are here. When you enter a country of incredible unity, you realize what we have all lost. I do not think I have time to respond to the lack. “Trust, which becomes insignificant. These people are fighting for the dreams and aspirations of all of us Americans.” The two managed to stay on the ground, with Penn talking about a meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky. “In him, I saw something I had never seen before,” Penn said. On MSNBC, Penn appeared in “The Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell”, where he also praised the people of Ukraine.